Poorly thought out in several areas.
I purchased this product less than a year ago before a 3 week trip to BC. It was difficult to fit on the bike & required some serious effort to align the mounting holes. I didn't give it much thought until last week when I had to remove the left side guard to try to mount some highway pegs. (that's another issue) At the attachment points at the front of the motor I discovered the left side bolt sheared off & the right side bracket attachment broken off. Good thing I didn't have to count on these things in a crisis. Poorly designed front attachment. The other issue is the space difference between guard & cylinder head, right vs. left. There is no room on the left side for highway peg attachment. Look elsewhere for a set of guards.
Not as Hard as I Feared
It's been ages since I turned a wrench and I've got some injuries (and age) that slowed me down quite a bit. But not counting a run to the tool store, this install took me about 1 1/2 hours. If you can get up and down from the ground like a normal human being, or have a lift so you don't have to, it will take you quite a bit less time. I put these bars on my 2011 R1200RT. Not nearly as difficult as the some of the horror stories here and none of the problems with ill fitting parts.
The included instructions are insufficient and the online videos do not help much, but thanks to those who wrote here about having to remove a bolt on the left side and replace it with the included one, I managed. At one point, when the bottom support bracket appeared to be off by 1/2", and I thought I'd have to get out the Dremel and enlarge a hole on the bottom bracket considerably, I started composing a poor review in my head. Then I remembered that some writers here had mentioned the judicious use of a rubber mallet. Sure enough, one light tap and the holes lined up perfectly.
My addition to the installation instructions is a warning to those with minimal tool kits. You'll need about 9" of ratchet extension to R & R the bolt that holds the crossover on the left side. It's waaaaay in there.
I'm happy with the fit, finish and look of these bars. Now if only my highway pegs would arrive!
Easy Installation - Great Looks
Purchased these engine guards for my 2015RTW. The instructions are straightforward and the guards are very easy to install. They look great on the bike and - IMO - make the m/c look a bit more 'finished.'
Quite happy with this product so far. Hopefully I'll never "need" it to do its job, though :)
Poor Fitment on 2013 R1200RT
I purchased this product used,it was previously mounted on a 2008 R1200RT. The bar assembly that bolts to the bottom of the engine is an extremely poor fit on my bike. I had to grind down the tops of the front tabs and parts of the tab welds, and also had to "stretch" all 4 mounting holes to get both the front and back to bolt up. Actually, the front wouldn't even bolt up by itself (the back would, but not in concert with the front.
Since the previous owner had no difficulty with mounting the bar, I am assuming BMW may have made some minor changes to the casting for the lower crankcase.
Once bolted in, however, these look really strong.
Look nice & easy to install
Not too bad to install - took a couple of hours. Had to stretch the bottom bracket a bit to fit but that was it. Dealer liked them because they will not interfere with access to the valve cover.
Installation was a snap due to the tips shared here ... to all of those who took the time to share their info.. Thank You!! Very nice product, well made and look great on my new RT..
The engine protection kit comes with grade 2 plated bolts of the poorest quality that could be found. The hardware should be high quality stainless. The allen heads began to round off when tightening because the metal is too soft. Guaranteed to rust. The directions are below par, lousy pictures and the instructions are not model specific, did not mention a factory bolt had to be removed from my RT for installation, also flipping from the front to the back and rotating the page 180 degrees each time to go from written instruction to referenced photo. If you are not mechanically inclined the install could be confusing. The fit and finish are good but the threaded holes had to be tapped to get the powder coat clear to allow bolts to be installed. A lot of money for cheap hardware to be included. Stainless hardware would have cost Wunderlich pennies more to include but they sent the cheap stuff. Disappointed.
Follow the instructions,get all bolts in place then tighten it all up.Keep a rubber mallet handy for that final tap into place and to make it easier to get the bolts lined up and started 30 minute job tops.
Was making a slow speed u-turn and bike went down. The bars bent and the bottom of the cylinder head was scraped. Thought that wasn't supposed to happen. Will be looking for bars that do not bend. Otherwise the bars look great but I do not have much confidence in them if a high speed slide were to happen.
Great Product!! - Install Tips
Okay, having just finished my instal (30+ minutes), I have some imediate tips that worked well for me.
First off, the product is great. It looks beautiful, blends in well, very unobtrusive. I hope I only keep it clean and never actually need it!
The previous comment about needing to remove an existing bolt from the left side is certainly true. The threaded hole on the right side is plainly visible and reasonably accessable, but the left side is a different story. Not only will you need to remove the bolt, but alignment is difficult. To make this work, I installed the right side first, snug but not tight. This allow for positioning of the bars, but they'll remain in place when moved. To make the alignment, I used a 12" phillips screwdriver to get everything in position. Then I used an 18" extension (3/8" drive) to place the bolt. It sounds a bit awkward, but it made the install very simple.
For the lower bracket, the back bolts are a breeze, but the front bolt is difficult. The mounting bar allows just for enough clearance if you use a mallet and drift to "position" the thru-bolt. A few smacks and everything lined up.
For the bars, I insert the upper section into the cross bar and snugged it loosely with the set screw. On the bottom, there are 3 mount bolts (2 in front, 1 in back). I started the back bolt first. This allow the most flexibility for alignment. With the back bolt started, I used a phillips screwdrive in one of the front mount holes to make alignment, while installing the other front mount bolt. This allows for pulling the bars into position while installing the mount bolts. Once one of the front mount bolts is installed, the second is a breeze.
Once everything was installed, I then went back around to every fastener and tightened them to the torque specified.
Having made/installed many components fabricated from tubing, sheet metal, etc., I understand that even the best designed and fabricated products will "relax" into a position different from original fabrication. This is particularly true of tubing that has been post-fabrication processed (powdercoated) since the heat generated during processing will cause normalization of the material.
Overall, everything lined up perfectly and looks wonderful. I can't wait to get my back bars to protect the saddle bags.
Does the job
Takes a bit of time to install but well designed. I mounted my driving lights (Denali D2) on them.
Gotta read the instructions and get a rubber mallet.
Installation was fairly straightforward, install the top bar, then the bottom bracket, and fit the bottom screws before sliding the side bars into the top bracket. Then comes the mallet; you have to " guide" the top bar into the fitting with some gentle rubber persuasion. If you try fitting the top bar and then the screws, it will never fit! Looks great, solidifies the bottom half and has plenty of room to lean the bike. Read the instructions carefully and it should go together as designed. The left side assembles much easier than the right, probably due to the head being slightly offset. I plan on adding the bag bars later as funding allows. BMW=Bring My Wallet! Nice product, wished the chrome was not sold out when I purchased. Sehr Gut, Wunderlich!
Tourist vs RT
Tourist in a small rental car pulled out in front of me and my beloved RT on highway. T bone impact at 55 mph sheared front rim, bent/collapsed front forks and sent me flying. The engine protection bars held up amazingly well and the while the bike was totaled the bars and engine were in good condition. Warning: take my word for it but don't try this at home.
Saved me big bucks!
During my first ride after purchasing a new R1200RT this winter I dropped the bike causing about $600 in cosmetic damages to the right side cylinder cover, fairing, pannier and mirror. It also pinned my leg so that I needed the help of some passers-by to get me back upright. During the repairs, I decided to add both the engine protection and rear bars by Wunderlich. I also had the seat lowered an inch, after which my confidence on the bike grew to the point where I considered removing both sets of bars to achieve a more sporty look. -- Until the other day a motorist speeding through an intersection caused me to pull up short and lose balance again, resulting in a 2nd drop. This time I was easily able to get right up and use the Wunderlich-recommended lifting method to raise my bike. When I inspected for damage I could find none - not a mark on the bike, fairing, cylinder head, mirror, pannier or bars. Not even a paint scratch on the bars. Needles to say, those bars are staying right on the bike.
Protection bars look and work great
I can't comment on the installation because I had the bars shipped direct to my dealer and installed there. So installation couldn't have been easier! I ordered the silver for my 2012 RT in midnight blue, and the bars match the rest of the bike perfectly! I have both the engine and pannier protection bars and have received lots of compliments on the looks. Plus, unfortunately, I can now report that they work as advertised. I dropped the bike at the gas station of all places, and when I picked it back up, there was not a scratch on it, except on the ends of the protection bars which aren't even noticeable. So I can attest these bars work as advertised and will protect your bike!
Great protection, good looks install a major PITA.
The good: These bars look great on the bike and are very solid once on.
The bad: The engine guards were more straight forward to install than the side case protectors. (At least in theory) Directions could have been a little bit better, but you'll figure it out with some trial and error. The biggest issue with these bars is the fit. After reading some of the other reviews it seems they simply will not fit out of the box. I can confirm this. Fitting is required. Be mindful that you don't pull the bike down on top of you while trying to bend and contort these bars to line up bolt holes. Installing these bars on my RT was no big mystery, but getting the proper fit was absolutely ridiculous. Somewhere I was reading that someone had to use a ratchet tie-down strap to bend the piece to fit. Come on Wunderlich. Where's that German precision we all like to see.
My advice: If you have money to burn, take these and your RT to the dealership and have them deal with the headache of putting them on.
After looking at many engine gards Wunderlich look the best, I call in the order and fews days lather was deliver to my house, After reading the instruction the job was simple done in one hours and all parts fit very well and look good, definely use Wunderlich for all I need for my Bemmer
Handsome and effective
These protection bars are excellent. Installation is simple, but special attention is needed for the last step to ensure proper alignment. Once done, they are solid and look wonderful on the bike. They are a great value and Wunderlinch delivery was quick and accurate. I would highly recommend this product for anyone owning an RT.
Installation was a snap. Installed in about a half an hour. No problems at all. I ordered the chrome version, they look great. I still plan to add teh rear crash bars later. They are pricey, but, well worth the expense.
Relieved they work
Upon parking my new 2012 BMW R1200RT on the street in downtown Phoenix I dismounted, stumbled and pulled the motorcycle over on its right side because the street surface sloped towards the curb. I am pleased and relieved that all the damage was confined to the engine protection bar and the luggage protection bar I installed beforehand. Thank you Wunderlich America.
Design of crash bars for the 2011 RT
I was disappointed with the manufacture of the right side bar. As I was installing the bars I noticed that the left side went together and the final product looks like it will protect the heads without any touching of the bars with the faring parts and the upper connection is good and tight. Unfortunately the same can not be said for the right side. To keep the bars from putting pressure on the lower faring I needed to first install the provided foam pad then I also backed out the top connection which I am not sure is as safe and in case of a fall will push in the rest of the way putting great pressure on the plastic faring. I do not understand why the same design can't be manufactured for the right side as the left.
Slight struggle during install was worth it
I was alone at home when I had to do this install this weekend, so I can attest that it can be accomplished by one person, although it would have helped if my son was around, to hold a flashlight, hand me tools, hold bars in place, etc.
I had to read the instructions and look at the photos a few times to figure out where I was supposed to attach the first piece. On the right side, there is an unused hole where one of the bolts is to go; but on the left side, you need to unscrew an existing bolt and then replace it with a longer bolt supplied with the engine guard. The instructions didn't say anything about this, but it appeared to be the only way.
Also, it took a but of trial and error to get the bottom unit on, and lined up with the holes. A bit of patience and some pounding, got it in place and bolted on. Finally, one of the side pieces was difficult to get the holes lined up for the bolts. I was able to get it on, by putting the rear side with the single bolt on first, before the front side with the pair of bolts.
Once it was all on and bolted down, it looked great, and felt nice and solid. I hope I don't need to test it, but it definitely gives me a bit more peace of mind.
Engine Protection Bars, Silver
It look's good and it was easy too mount.
installation of rear saddlebag and front engine protector bars
Just finished installation of the rear saddlebag guards and front engine valve protector bars on my 2009 RT. Bars look great with fit and finish. Instructions are fair at best and will take twice the time figuring them out. I bought the bars to help with the possible tip over which I had the first week of owning the bike. Learn to park the bike in gear and you'll have no problems. I also installed the rear passenger frame covers and with the rear bars there is much cutting of the plastic covers to fit them with the saddlebag protector bars. All in all, great products Wunderlich.
Good Fit and Good Looking
I purchased the silver engine guards for my 2009 RT. I like the fit of the unit on the bike and the way they look on the machine. However, the mounting of the engine guards is not a one-person job. The engine guards were not a perfect fit. By that, I mean they fit but they had to be push and pulled a little to get all the holes to line up. This could be a case of the welding fixture not holding the unit precisely while it is being welded during manufacturing.
However, it was not a huge deal to get them mounted and within an hour of starting, a friend and I had them on the machine.
I would recommend these units as they do mount under the engine and would offer some protect the bottom of the engine yet they will not get in the way while doing my own service. At alternator belt, change time the front crosspiece may have to be removed to get clearance to change the belt but that is only a 24K service.
They are worth the money!